9.06.2005

The Idiot Rapper

"George Bush doesn't care about black people."
-Kanye West

First there was the Idiot Kicker (Mike Vanderjagt of the Indianapolis Colts). Now there's the Idiot Rapper.

Don't get me wrong - I'm certainly not a fan of Dubya in ANY way, shape, or form. I think the way he (Bush) responded, or lack thereof, to this terrible catastrophe in New Orleans is shameful.

Back to Kanye. They say there's no such thing as "bad publicity." I think this officially dispells that theory:



The true gem of this video isn't just Kanye's outburst, but Mike Myers' expression after it was said. Priceless.

-El Capitan

posted by LoveBoatCaptain at 12:39 PM

16 Comments:

  • I give Kanye props for doing what he did. It had to be said, and I'm glad someone finally said it. Although personally its not that Bush doesn't cared about Black People, it's that he is an ineffectual leader. He's a friggin idiot who should never have been President and people, including the Supreme Court who put him the White House realized it too late. THat's why the former Chief Justice (Rest his soul) didn't want to retire. He realized his mistake and was trying to stay long enough so the next person could correct it.
    BTW, in case you didn't know, President Clinton funded an initiative to fix the levees of New Orleans back in 1995. Clinton's plan was to take 10 years to complete but would allow the levees to withstand a Category 5 Hurricane and 30 foot waves. Clinton's plan was to be completed by June 2005 and was actually ahead of schedule, however in 2003 Bush canceled the plan in order to find more money for his war in Iraq! I'm pissed and I'm no longer remaining silent....go ahead and call me Sourpuss Sammy or whatever!!!!!!

    By Blogger slammy62, at 9/06/2005 4:19 PM  

  • No, Sammy, for once, you're right.

    Your comment was well spoken/written, and for the first time in a while, not intended to make me look like an asshole (hallelujah!). I will not call you Sammy Sourpuss... this time... :)

    -El Capitan

    By Blogger LoveBoatCaptain, at 9/06/2005 4:57 PM  

  • And, by the way...

    As far as what Kanye said - sure, it's his opinion, and he may or may not be right. The problem is that there is a time and a place for such comments. This was the wrong time.

    Put it in a rap song. Make it the title of your next album. Don't talk about it during a Hurricane Relief benefit.

    -El Capitan

    By Blogger LoveBoatCaptain, at 9/06/2005 5:04 PM  

  • There's a time and a place for everything and it's called "college."

    By Blogger Master Ei-el, at 9/06/2005 7:40 PM  

  • Dude, that had to be the funniest thing I've ever heard - Absolutely hysterical! Some of my kids make more sense than him.

    Of course Kayne is right, but the problem is you're trying to get people to donate their money to solving the problem and helping the people involved. You want everyone donating their money, including Bush supporters. Kayne's drunken diatribe (at least I hope it was drunken - hate to think that's him sober) alienated people, and that's not going to get them to cash up...

    By Blogger TheBRR, at 9/06/2005 9:20 PM  

  • I disagree! There's a time and place for everything and I agree with Kanye that this was the perfect time and place. He had a captivated audience and he caught the attention of not only everyone watching but also the Bush adminstration. Immediately afterwards, the adminstration got their act together and started to get things in motion.

    As far as BRR's suggestion that Bush's supporters won't give up money as a result of someone critizing Bush, that's a cop out. 1. This is a huge natural disaster and anyone who has money (i.e. business people and corporations) can't afford not to give. They don't want to have to deal with the prublic relations night mare if they don't donate. If there are people who say they aren't donating as a result of what Kanye said, they are full of it. They weren't going to donate regardless and are using this as an excuse.

    By Blogger slammy62, at 9/07/2005 12:55 AM  

  • slammy62,

    In case you hadn't noticed, their are thousands of different organizations to donate to. If someone comes representing an organization you're thinking of donating to and tells everyone who'll listen that the guy you support as President is a racist scum bag as part of the sales pitch, you'll find someone else to donate to. That goes for individuals and companies, as well.

    Now, I agree with his words, I just don't think you do it while asking everyone to donate...

    By Blogger TheBRR, at 9/07/2005 7:05 AM  

  • Forget the audience he had on this particular night. Kanye had an audience just as large less than a week earlier (and AFTER the storm). It was the MTV Music Awards. Yet, he chose this benefit as his soapbox...

    -El Capitan

    By Blogger LoveBoatCaptain, at 9/07/2005 7:27 AM  

  • The MTV event was prior to Katrina hitting New Orleans and definately prior to the poor excuse for rescue and recovery.

    Eric, you contradicted yourself. If the person donates to another cause, they are still donating. So according to what you just said, there was no harm done. People still donated to the cause regardless what Kanye said. if they didn't donate, they weren't going to donate regardless and decided to use it as an excuse.

    By Blogger slammy62, at 9/07/2005 2:21 PM  

  • Kanye can Kiss my ass. Wrong time, wrong place. He caused alot of people, like myself to immediately change the channel at that point. I hate Kanye...../signed

    By Blogger Irish, at 9/07/2005 8:09 PM  

  • Sammy,

    The goal of that particular telethon was not to get people to donate to just any charity, but to that specific one, therefore what I said wasn't a contradiction.

    A telethon where you're trying to coax people into donating their cash in relief of a tragic situation is not an appropriate forum to express political views. You don't alientate people, you encourage them. You make them feel good about what they're doing, not like idiots for supporting the wrong person. You concentrate on positives and focus on the differences they can make. That's it - period.

    It's simple psychology. It's positive reinforcement versus negative reinforcement. If you want people to do the right thing, you stroke their egos and make them feel good about it. You don't put them down until they do the right thing, because they'll just turn the TV off...

    By Blogger TheBRR, at 9/07/2005 11:30 PM  

  • Eric, one I again I must disagree. This telethon was to raise moneyfor the American Red Cross. All the other charities out there are to raise money for the American Red Cross. So whether it was done to this specific telethon or another, the money still got to the American Red Cross.

    This isn't simple psychology. This is politics. To quote Machiavelli, "The End Justifies the Means!" In the end, people donated, so it doesn't matter what the means used to get there was. Furthermore, Kanye's comment got people questioning Bush in an unprecedented way.....again, the ends were accomplished, doesn't matter the means we got there.

    By Blogger slammy62, at 9/08/2005 2:04 PM  

  • Actually Sammy, not all the organizations helping in New Orleans are the American Red Cross.

    Is it less appropriate to donate $10 to Microsoft so they can repair damaged IT infrastructure to ensure smooth communications between relief centers?

    Would it be less appropriate to give money to your local place of worship that may be sending a delegation bringing food and goods?

    Would sending money to Habitat for Humanities be less appropriate?

    Their are a lot of people down their trying to do things. They may be coordinated by the Red Cross, I don't know exactly how things are being managed, but they are not strictly limited to or funded by the Red Cross.

    As for Kayne, listening to him speak, I hardly believe that he got people questioning anyone (other than himself) in an unprecedented manner. He comes off as a whack job, a complete buffoon. Why else do you think Josh put it on the website? People are laughing at him - it's comedy - nothing else....

    By Blogger TheBRR, at 9/08/2005 7:11 PM  

  • Wrong again! 1. Private organization are not allowed to collect money under the guise of a "national crisis" unless thye will be turning that money to the American Red Cross. All organizations raising money for this are required to place it in a trust for the American Red Cross

    As far as the comment about not getting people to question, actually CNN had a huge thing about this today. Pal Bagalia and Anne Buchannan (sister of Pat Buchannan) were debating this today. Although one of them agreed with Kanye and the other didn't, they both consented to the notion that his comments got people to look harshly at the administration. It is causing for inquiries to be looked into and people placing an emphasis on the way minorities as a whole have been unfairly treated by this adminstration.

    As far as people making a joke about it, I'll concede to the humor it has. However, without purposely insulting people, most people who are laughing at Kanye don't realize the actual political impact this message carried and what an actual difference it made for the victims of New Orleans!

    By Blogger slammy62, at 9/09/2005 1:08 AM  

  • I completely and thouroughly disagree with your view on Kayne's role in the perception of the administration, but you have the right to your opinion. I think many, many things that have taken place recently have had far more effect on what's been happening in that regard, in particular the images and captions that follow them (something Kayne did allude to, I concede).

    As far as the Red Cross goes, it's all about perception. If I'm angry about something a representative of that organization said, I don't knowingly donate to that cause. Their is such a thing as bad publicity, and while it may not affect them now, it will affect them. You and I both know how ignorant people are.

    The Red Cross isn't just about Katrina. They might get their money for Katrina now, but it's shortsighted to think that people offended by Kayne's words will be willing to donate afterwards.

    Esentially calling people racist idiots will have a backlash, and I don't believe that you can't see far enough past this event to realize that...

    By Blogger TheBRR, at 9/09/2005 5:11 AM  

  • "Can't we all just get along?"

    -Rodney King

    By Blogger LoveBoatCaptain, at 9/09/2005 2:15 PM  

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